Legislature(2013 - 2014)SENATE FINANCE 532
04/13/2013 10:00 AM Senate CONFERENCE COMMITTEE ON HB 65 AND HB 66
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CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 65(FIN)
"An Act making appropriations for the operating and
loan program expenses of state government and for
certain programs, capitalizing funds, and making
reappropriations; and providing for an effective
date."
SENATE CS FOR CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 65(FIN)
"An Act making appropriations for the operating and
loan program expenses of state government and for
certain programs, capitalizing funds, and making
reappropriations; and providing for an effective
date."
and
CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 66(FIN)
"An Act making appropriations for the operating and
capital expenses of the state's integrated
comprehensive mental health program and making a
reappropriation; and providing for an effective date."
SENATE CS FOR CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 66(FIN)
"An Act making appropriations for the operating and
capital expenses of the state's integrated
comprehensive mental health program and making a
reappropriation; and providing for an effective date."
Departments:
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development
Department of Fish and Game
Department of Health and Social Services
Department of Natural Resources
Department of Public Safety
University of Alaska
Chair Austerman related that the committee would take up
all remaining open items in HB 65 and HB 66, based on the
motion sheets distributed to members earlier in the day
(copy on file), dated April 12, for the following
departments: the Department of Commerce, Community and
Economic Development, the Department of Fish and Game, the
Department of Health and Social Services, the Department of
Natural Resources, Department of Public Safety, and the
University of Alaska.
Chair Austerman invited David Teal, Director of the
Legislative Finance Division to join the committee at the
table.
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development:
10:07:18 AM
Vice-Chair Kelly MOVED to ADOPT the Chair's recommendation
on the following items for the Department of Commerce,
Community and Economic Development.
Item 5 House
Item 10 Senate
Item 12 House
Item 18 House
Item 24 Senate
10:08:00 AM
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered. The action
closed all conferencable items in the budget for the
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development.
10:08:10 AM
Vice-Chair Kelly MOVED to ADOPT the Chair's recommendation
on the following items for the Department of Fish and Game.
Item 2 Senate minus $110.0
10:08:28 AM
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered. The action
closed all conferencable items in the budget for the
Department of Fish and Game.
10:08:32 AM
Vice-Chair Kelly MOVED to ADOPT the Chair's recommendation
on the following items for the Department of Health and
Social Services.
Item 9 Senate
Item 20 Senate
Item 22 Senate
Item 25 House plus $1,000.0
Item 28 Senate minus $200.0
Item 33 Senate
10:09:09 AM
Vice-Chair Kelly stated that the following intent language
was also being added:
The first is added at the department-level and reads:
It is the intent of the legislature that the
Department of Health and Social Services submit a
report to the Finance Committees by January 21, 2014,
that identifies by grant program the percent of
administrative costs charged if over fifteen percent
and the statutory or regulatory authority for that
rate. The second is added to the Energy Assistance
Program allocation and reads: It is the intent of the
legislature that the Department of Health and Social
Services develop and implement regulatory changes by
September 1, 2014, to match the cost of the energy
assistance program to the appropriation provided.
The second is added to the Energy Assistance Program
allocation and reads:
It is the intent of the legislature that the
Department of Health and Social Services develop and
implement regulatory changes by September 1, 2014, to
match the cost of the energy assistance program to the
appropriation provided.
10:09:59 AM
Representative Gara OBJECTED for the purpose of discussion.
He spoke to Item 28 and related that the legislature had
adopted most of the increment for one of the Medicare
clinics in Anchorage. He shared that there were two major
Medicare clinics in Anchorage, but that the increment only
went to the privately ruin, non-profit clinic. He offered
that the Medicare clinic at Providence Hospital was a
better run organization and wished that the money had been
split between the two clinics.
Representative Gara WITHDREW his OBJECTION.
10:10:54 AM
AT EASE
10:14:17 AM
RECONVENED
10:14:25 AM
Vice-Chair Kelly related that he needed to revise the
intent language for the Energy Assistance Program. He
relayed that the date had been changed in the intent
language and pointed out that it should read:
It is the intent of the legislature that the
Department of Health and Social Services develop and
implement regulatory changes by September 1, 2013, to
match the cost of the energy assistance program to
the appropriation provided.
10:15:05 AM
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered. The action
closed all conferencable items in the budget for the
Department of Health and Social Services.
10:15:15 AM
Vice-Chair Kelly MOVED to ADOPT the Chair's recommendation
on the following items for the Department of Natural
Resources.
Item 6 Senate
Item 7 Senate minus $45.0
10:15:34 AM
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered. The action
closed all conferencable items in the budget for the
Department of Natural Resources.
10:15:40 AM
Vice-Chair Kelly MOVED to ADOPT the Chair's recommendation
on the following items for the Department of Public Safety.
Item 6 Senate
10:15:54 AM
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered. The action
closed all conferencable items in the budget for the
Department of Public Safety.
10:15:59 AM
Vice-Chair Kelly MOVED to ADOPT the Chair's recommendation
on the following items for the University.
Item 1 Senate
Item 2 Senate
Item 3 Senate
Item 4 line 1 - Senate and line 2 - House
Item 5 Senate
Item 6 Senate
Item 7 House
Item 8 Senate
Item 9 House
Item 10 Senate
Item 11 Senate
Item 12 House
Item 13 Senate
Item 14 Senate
Item 15 House
Item 16 House
Item 17 House
Item 18 House
Item 19 House
Item 20 Senate
Item 21 House
Item 22 Senate
Item 23 Senate
Item 24 House
Item 25 House
Item 26 House
10:17:56 AM
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered. The action
closed all conferencable items in the budget for the
University.
10:18:06 AM
AT EASE
10:19:14 AM
RECNVENED
10:19:19 AM
Vice-Chair Kelly MOVED to ADOPT the document with the
footer "FY14 Fiscal Note Section to HB65" as section 2 of
HB 65.
10:19:44 AM
Chair Austerman OBJECTED for the purpose of discussion.
Vice-Chair Kelly related that:
1. Section 2 makes appropriations associated with the
bills listed.
2. If a bill listed either fails to pass, its
substance fails to be incorporated in some other
measure, or is vetoed by the governor, the
appropriations associated with that bill are reduced.
3. SB 95 is presented in a non-traditional way.
a. Listing all allocations affected by SB 95
would add over 20 pages to the bill.
b. So each allocation and fund source is not
listed in section 2.
c. As an alternative, there is language reading:
SB 95 State Employee Compensation and Benefits
Salary adjustments, increments, and geographic
pay differentials for non-covered employees, as
described in SB 95 and accompanying fiscal notes,
are included in sec. 1 of this Act. The fiscal
note totals for SB 95 are: $7,041,500 of
unrestricted general funds, $480,400 of
designated general funds, $2,165,400 of other
state funds, and $754,200 of federal receipts.
4. The attached reports prepared by the Legislative
Finance Division list the fund sources and agencies
associated with the bill.
10:21:36 AM
Representative Gara OBJECTED for the purpose of discussion.
He understood that the fiscal notes, with one exception,
all related to bills that were going to pass or employee
negotiations; however, there was a change to the fiscal
note for HB 4. He explained that in the House, the HB 4
fiscal note had been funded at $3.6 million out of the $7.6
million that was requested; the intention with the
appropriation was to allow a report and a review by the
legislature to see if the bill was in the best public
interest for Alaskans. He expressed concern that funding
the full $7.6 million would allow an open season without
legislative approval or review in the meantime; he opined
that this was not good policy and offered that the policy
that the co-chair in the House had adopted was the better.
He did not believe that he had the "votes here" and relayed
that he would withdraw his objection.
Representative Gara WITHDREW his OBJECTION.
10:22:54 AM
Senator Hoffman stated that if the legislation was passed,
the fiscal note "on that" would be determined in the other
body and relayed that the notes were for each body to
decide.
10:23:22 AM
Chair Austerman WITHDREW his OBJECTION.
10:23:32 AM
There being NO further OBJECTION, it was so ordered.
10:23:38 AM
Vice-Chair Kelly MOVED to ADOPT the document with the
footer "FY14 Fiscal Note Section to HB66" as section 2 of
HB 66. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.
10:24:01 AM
Vice-Chair Kelly MOVED to give the Legislation Finance
Division and Legislative Legal Services the ability to make
technical and conforming adjustments to the Conference
Committee Substitutes for HB 65 and HB 66. There being NO
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.
10:24:18 AM
Vice-Chair Kelly MOVED to REPORT CCSHB 65 as amended out of
committee with individual recommendations and that the
authorization be given to the Legislative Finance Division
and Legislative Legal Services to make any necessary
technical and/or conforming changes. There being NO
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.
10:24:34 AM
CCSHB 65 was REPORTED out of committee with a "do pass"
recommendation.
10:24:36 AM
Vice-Chair Kelly MOVED to REPORT CCSHB 66 as amended out of
committee with individual recommendations and that the
authorization be given to the Legislative Finance Division
and Legislative Legal Services to make any necessary
technical and/or conforming changes.
10:24:51 AM
Senator Hoffman OBJECTED to make a comment. He thanked the
Senate co-chairmen for working with him throughout the
process on the operating budget. He thought that given the
fiscal condition the state was in, the budget was one that
would serve the state in the coming fiscal year.
10:25:18 AM
Senator Hoffman WITHDREW his OBJECTION.
10:25:19 AM
Representative Gara OBJECTED for the purpose of discussion.
He related that while the budget was not one that "each one
of us" would have written, he appreciated the chance for
dialogue on the issues with the operating budget chair and
other members of the committee. He opined that the
operating budget was a better document than it had started
out as.
Representative Gara WITHDREW his OBJECTION.
10:25:50 AM
There being NO further OBJECTION, CCS HB 66 was REPORTED
out of committee with a "do pass" recommendation.
10:25:52 AM
Chair Austerman related that this would be the last meeting
of Conference Committee and that all of its items were
closed. He thanked members of his staff, the Senate co-
chairs and their staff, members of the Conference Committee
and their staff, David Teal, Amanda Ryder, the Legislative
Finance Division, Legislative Legal Services, the Office of
Management and Budget, and Karen Rehfeld.
10:26:48 AM
Vice-Chair Kelly echoed the thanks of Chair Austerman and
thanked James Armstrong in particular. He shared that he
had been gone from the legislature for ten years and that
his "legislative Kung Fu was a little rusty." He furthered
that without James, the Senate would not have been
prepared.
10:27:17 AM
AT EASE
10:27:45 AM
RECONVENED
Vice-Chair Kelly MOVED to ADJOURN. There being NO
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.
CCS HB 65 was REPORTED out of committee with a "do pass"
recommendation.
CCS HB 66 was REPORTED out of committee with a "do pass"
recommendation.
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